Chapter 1: Not All Those Who Wander Are Lost (OOC)

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Nikello
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That was years ago, when I collected rule 34 stuff and was amused by shock-factor. Like, 2007-2008. I only watched that because it had Jason in it and the idea amused me, in much the same way and Adam West porno might.

drumandfight
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Shhhh... take my hand and let this happen. It is time we consecrate this Bromance, Nik.

Rule 34 is awesome. Shock factor porn is all this generation has left. I claim the Jaded talent for myself.

Nikello
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Nah, tumblr killed it. It's been completely drowned out by superwholocke OTPs and taking characters who are clearly straight and making them have the most unerotic gay sex this side of fanfiction.net.

If you want great shock stuff, go onto toplessrobot.com's fanfiction friday section. Check out Hermione and the Sorting Hat in "The Sorting Hat's Love." They don't make it like that anymore.

mruozu
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Oh you guys and your gay, rule 34, power ranger, japanese, tentacle, Rita porn.

Quite a bonding moment.

Nikello
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I am 100% convinced that this Inquisitor is incompetent.

drumandfight
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This game just got so fucking awesome.

mruozu
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I love the roleplaying thus far, good shit everybody. Keep it up.

A few things to point out though.

1) While Fulrik physically assaulted the Inquisitor, he was by no means going to kill her, or he would have. The fact that Mac was going to threaten an Inquisitor with a knife at her throat and potentially kill her makes me worry about Mac's character, Nikello. As in, the Inquisition are the ones who give missions to the Deathwatch and are basically why the Deathwatch even exists. The military arm of the Ordo Xenos. Not that I don't like what your character was going to do. On the contrary, I would have done the same as Fulrik in that position. But I think you guys are pushing your luck with the Inquisition by threatening the life of one so high up as her.

2) Plus, since no one really knows what happened, it means that any number of things could have happened. Only I truly know what happened haha. Whereas none of the characters, save Samael most likely, know what happened to Darius. Although it's good to argue about what happened or didn't happen, none of it really matters and Darius is still dead regardless. Poor Darius =( I say on with the mission!

3) Also, about the artifacts. Samael in my opinion had to get away from the team in order to carry out his mission. Being with the team would have probably hurt him more than helped him, since he wouldn't be able to contact his support with you guys just standing there around.

I say these things here because since you all have hustled and bustled off, the Inquisitor has no way of speaking them to you all in IC.

I like where this shit it going. Let's keep it up.

mruozu
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So I am assuming everyone is out the door right? I will begin my IC post if everyone is good. I think Greeth is the only one who hasn't said his intentions, but I would assume he follows the group.

drumandfight
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*Bows* A-thank you.

I don't know that I fully agree with the assertion that Mac pushing the boundaries from an RP perspective. I mean, sure he pushed the boundaries with this particular Inquisitor, but if he is from a Chapter that already doesn't particularly like the Inquisition, then I can see what he did as justified. I mean, he didn't attack her and no one had to roll. From what I get through reading the Deathwatch 40k wiki (which is basically all drawn from the FFG books), the Inquisitors don't necessarily have control over the Kill Teams (I made an exception in my game for the purpose of the narrative). The missions come from the Watch Commanders and are passed to the Watch Captains and then again to the Kill Teams; the Inquisitors work alongside the Astartes and don't attempt to exert authority unless absolutely necessary. However, I think this is sometimes left intentionally murky to give GM's a little leeway to set up the narrative how they wish.

From the wiki:
"Largely left to their own devices, the Space Marines are not accustomed to answering to others in matters of war. Chapter Masters are some of the greatest human leaders in the galaxy and their decisions affect the lives of billions. So when the Inquisition arrives in a warzone or other engagement and begins making demands, it may draw the ire of the Space Marines.

While most Astartes recognise — and even appreciate — the role that the Inquisition plays in the Imperium, there are other Chapters that are distrustful of the shadowy organisation. Anti-authoritarian Chapters such as the Space Wolves have reservations about any group wielding such unchecked power. Other Space Marines may have issues stemming from personal experiences with particular Inquisitors and decisions they did not agree with."

We saw how Fulrik reacted, already thinking poorly of the Inquisition, but more so because the Inquisitor laid a grave insult against his Bromigo, Sammy. It seems to me that the Eagle Knights may hold some of those same reservations.

it continues, "While the Deathwatch is not directly under the orders of the Ordo Xenos, they have close ties with that mysterious body and it is the Inquisition that identifies many of the targets and missions for them to undertake."

So, the whole point I am trying to make is that while what Mac did will no doubt have some future consequences with the Inquisitor and her superiors, I think it is justifiable given his PC and Chapter. It is like DDMW said, his Chapter Demeanor is whiny.

Edit: FULRIK IS OUT THAT DOOR! FUCK BREAKFAST!

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Yeah I agree from an RP perspective. I just must have forgotten how much his chapter doesn't like the Inquisition. I am fine with whatever you guys do given the situation, I was just warning Nikello that things like that might have some bad consequences. Arguing and bantering with an Inquisitor is one thing. Holding a knife to her throat is quite a bit more.

Alrighty, good citations. From what I had read, and I guess my feelings from your game, I thought the Inquisitors had more power over the Deathwatch. I must have been mistaken. Apologies.

I will move along the IC as soon as I have something in mind.

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Also I would like to point out that it was funny to see that Mac didn't want the situation to escalate. And then we was going to hold a knife to the very Inquisitor he was there to rescue. =D

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On your first point, I have to mention that Inquisitors are not infallible. In fact, many have gone rogue and been corrupted. It would not be beyond some inquisitors to use the Deathwatch or various other Chapters for their own political ends. The Emperor's Gift immediately springs to mind.

I will also point out that Inquisitors don't actually have a clear hierarchy. Her "high" position, unless she was officially granted jurisdiction as an Inquisitor Lord over several subsectors and Inquisitorial operations therein (which would also make her presence on this world highly irresponsible), would merely be a matter of peer-reputation rather than formally recognized power. Moreover, no one person or handful of people holds command over an entire Ordo, as the bureaucracy involved would be so staggering that not only would they be unable to hide Inquisitorial operations by means of paper trail, but it would severely hinder any investigations undertaken by the Inquisitors themselves.

As for the Deathwatch's place in the current scheme, the Deathwatch operates in tandem with the interests of various Inquisitorial conclaves at the discretion of the Watch Commanders and the Masters of the Watch. It is well within the power of Watch Commanders (unless directly ordered by a Master of the Watch) to revoke Deathwatch support for particular Inquisitorial efforts.

Mac's relationship with the Inquisitor is in reaction to her presumption of authority over him and his team, which is not part of the mission parameters. We extract her alive, kicking and screaming if need be. Her desires are not relevant to mission parameters.

mruozu
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Just be sure to extract her...alive!

mruozu
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I can't really search for that at work, Syl. Especially since I work at a high school.

Damn firewall...

Mayhaps the others will have better luck.

Nikello
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Also leaving the Inquisitor behind is a terrible idea.

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mruozu wrote:

Also I would like to point out that it was funny to see that Mac didn't want the situation to escalate. And then we was going to hold a knife to the very Inquisitor he was there to rescue. =D

Hahahaha; yeah that shit was rad.

As for Inquisitor Carmillus, the situation is just totally different. The way I set it up, you guys all got a chance to meet her, to know her personality, to "break bread" with her basically before your first mission together. You saw how Leonarus and even Logan respected her which reflects on her character, and she has exuded a ton of authority over the situation.

With this Inquisitor, it is just hard meeting her in a warzone, losing brothers, searching out artifacts and having our brother called out as a traitor without having any report with her at all. It is getting everyone's tensions high. I assume it is just the difference in the Inquisitors themselves. Carmillus probably would have sat Fulrik down and stroked his mane while telling him her thoughts. Might have even brought a doggy biscuit... and that plasma pistol just in case shit got real.

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sylphilis wrote:

Sorry guys. Work has been severe this week and I cant check as often as I normally do. Can still do at least once a day though. And on that note. Since we brought it up can anyone find porn with the japanese power ranger? Lmao

Come with me, my friend. We have much to discuss.

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She can come along if you insist. She was just allowing for pride and honor to be kept between you guys. She may not have a sense of that to some degree, but she knows that fucking with Astartes pride got her smashed against a wall. And almost knifed.

So, she was trusting in Kal-vek's assertions. Feel free to mention it to her and bring her along. She would rather come along in any case.

Nikello
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It also doesn't help that she seems to have chosen a real mission to flush out a traitor in our midst. You don't bait a net-trap with a knife.

drumandfight
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I baited four times in a single day once. Never used a knife.

Used a net though.

mruozu
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She works with what she is given.

mruozu
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She likes to use a knife for her...baiting ;)

drumandfight
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I bet she's mastered the baiting with a knife method.

mruozu
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On many occasion.

drumandfight
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Oh shit, with all the excitement, Fulrik never got any healing from Greeth.

He needs him some Greethy healin'

Nikello
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Just so we're all clear, if you have a knife and you're in a net trap, you can cut your way out.

mruozu
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Not a metal net!

So, as far as things stand, this is how I see it. Completely OOC. The Inquisitor is working with what she got. Plus, it was to flush the person out. Now yes, she doesn't have solid proof it was Samael, but she has a pretty good idea now that it is. She didn't know who it was, so she couldn't say anything to anyone about it. She was hoping that by mentioning the artifacts location that it would bring the person out. And so maybe it did in her eyes. Had she mentioned it, it might have gone better or worse, but she chose to keep it to herself. She didn't think a space marine would die because of it, but these things do happen when dealing with Chaos Space Marines (if that is what Samael is).

And now rather than have an Alpha Legion in your midst (probably) ready to potentially pounce on you and deliver unholy heavy bolter fire into your backs while potentially having his chaos buddy brothers rend into you from a trap, you have him going forward with his mission for the sake of trying to get the jump on you and get the hell out of here, which he would have done secretly had Darius not gotten in the way trying to stop him. Technically he does still have the jump on you.

IF Sammie is a Alpha Legion Operative, he should have probably stayed with you and walked everyone into a trap, but he was found out by Darius whether through private vox communication or (more likely) some private heretical way or Darius was simply in the wrong place at the wrong time. And having killed Darius, he probably thought Darius somehow heard the encrypted message and had told all of you. So he probably fled with that knowledge, knowing that he couldn't take on 4 other Astartes and a powerful psyker Inquisitor by himself. If I was Samael, I would have fled too.

The Inquisitor might have been wrong in keeping information from everyone else, but she gambled with it. And with a Space Wolf, she knows she can find the traitor.

Instead of being surprised by them, you may be much better off and have a better fighting chance.

Of course this is all conjecture. Samael might have just gone out for a stroll and will be like HEY GUYS! when you walk outside. =D

drumandfight
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I am still not convinced that the Alpha Legion even IS chaos affiliated.

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drumandfight wrote:

I am still not convinced that the Alpha Legion even IS chaos affiliated.

I expect they're going to try to explain 'it is all part of the Emperor's plan' at some later point, but I don't think it can hold up to much scrutiny. If the Alpha Legion hadn't betrayed the Emperor, the Horus Heresy would have been eliminated long before they got to Terra. And if they were supposed to infiltrate CHAOS, they should have gone to the Eye of Terror. They may have been deluded in their support for Horus, but they supported Horus. So, whatever their motivations, fuck 'em. And if they're not affiliated with Chaos, why do they keep making life hard for the Imperium?

Best case - they're like the Eldar - even if they're individually alright guys, they're on the wrong side of the battle lines.

As far as wild speculation on the facts as we understand them:

1) It's not Sammael that is an Alpha Legionnaire, it's Darius!
2) Sammael was SUPPOSED to be replaced by an Alpha Legionnaire, and Darius thought he was. As a result, Darius came into Sammael's room, made some strange code-talk that made Sammael suspicious.
3) Sammael decided to follow into the room but didn't have enough confirmation to alert everyone that 'Darius is acting strangely'.
4) Darius fooled Sammael into thinking the rest of the team was compromised. Sammael doesn't call for reinforcements for that reason. He breaks in, kills Darius.
5) At this point, if the rest of the team is composed of traitors, Sammael should kill them all. But if they're not, he'd be terribly irresponsible to murder them. He can't trust the team and he can't trust what Darius said... Even Fulrik, who's last communication was 'trust the team' seems suspect.
6) Sammael decides that the only thing he can do is go after the artifacts himself. If Darius thinks that he is an Alpha Legionnaire, maybe the other Chaos forces aren't aware of his true affiliation. He has a unique chance to 'play both sides' without even knowing which side is which.
7) The Inquisitor has an axe to grind against Astartes. She's paranoid to the point of seeing traitors everywhere, and creating 'facts' to suit her theories, rather than evaluating the evidence as it stands.

You know, if we're wildly speculating.

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IT IS ALL PART OF THE EMPEROR'S PLAN.

They kept reeking havoc because while they aren't loyal to the IMPERIUM, they are loyal to the EMPEROR who would basically implode at what the current Imperium has become.

Also, I am set to read "Legion" after I finish "Battle for the Abyss" (Yes, I am balls deep in the Heresy novels at the moment) and I will let you know what I come up with.

Wild Speculation abounds: Sammael could not take the vicious ass pounding given to him by Fulrik on the rocky vista, turned traitor.

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drumandfight wrote:

IT IS ALL PART OF THE EMPEROR'S PLAN.

They kept reeking havoc because while they aren't loyal to the IMPERIUM, they are loyal to the EMPEROR who would basically implode at what the current Imperium has become.

But the Emperor would be fine (and the Imperium not so shitty) if they hadn't supported Horus in the first place.

On the other hand, maybe they do serve the Emperor and they were trained by the same people that trained our Inquisitor.

drumandfight
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Hahaha, an argument for another day, I am sure.

I have this feeling that one day you and I will sit down with a nice pipe and some glasses of Cognac and figure out this whole fucking "Alpha Legion" thing.

Until that day, cheers.

Nikello
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I've read Legion, so I won't spoil their motivation, but by the 41st millennium, I don't think they know what the fuck they are doing.

At this point though, I'm pretty sure they're fractured and aren't well coordinated. However, some of them are definitely Chaos Aligned. Kernax Voldorius certainly is.

Nikello
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Oh and that the net is metal is irrelevant when it's a mollyknife or a powerknife.

mruozu
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Drum and I have had a few talks about the Alpha Legion before. Should be cool to see what happens with it.

mruozu
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Alrighty boys, it's been a busy weekend so if I don't get an IC post up today, I will do so early tomorrow (Japan time, which is tomorrow night for everyone in America). Sorry for the delay.

Nikello
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Why are you Japan, anyways? Native resident? Business?

Nikello
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Wow I sound like a dick!

I'm not going to edit that.

drumandfight
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LOL, we are English teachers, dude.

Applied to and accepted on the JET program. Gettin' our teach on in the land of the rising sun.

mruozu
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I'll be back stateside in August. Been here 3 years just about.

Nikello
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I figured it was a teaching job, but I didn't want to assume.

Nikello
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Oh, a thing about that. For all of July therabouts I'm going to be in Belize as part of an Anthropology thing, excavating some Maya site or other. I've been to Belize before, and their internet is garbage, so I won't be able post during that time. I don't want to leave this RP, so we'll have to figure something out.

Nikello
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It's possible I could infodump drumandfight and let him play Mac while I'm gone, if he'd be willing to do that for me...

drumandfight
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Yeah, that wouldn't be a problem.

Mac likes to taste the business end of his own Bolt Pistol, right?

mruozu
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Yeah that'll be fine. We can pick it up for a while.

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drumandfight wrote:

Mac likes to taste the business end of his own Bolt Pistol, right?

Requires Agility 65+ according to my research. Best off finding a 'battle' brother like Fulrik and Samael did... Though I think referring to a 'missile launcher' as a 'bolt pistol' doesn't help matters at all.

drumandfight
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Fulrik wa "missile launcher" arimasu.

Mac wa "bolt pistol" arimasu.

Story checks out.

mruozu
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So let's get some awareness checks from everybody. And is there something like tracking? There has to be. Those as well.

You are all at the edge of the mine, the shaft (giggity) goes down forever, as in you can't see the bottom. Ringed around the edge is a solid large path that can lead you further into the mine. From what you can see, there seems to be larger caverns that lead off the main path and into side caverns. It smells of oil and the machinery still idles around you. Due to the noise and smoggy atmosphere around the mineshaft, your awareness checks will take a bit of a hit (-10).

Let's see if you guys see anything or if there is anything to see.

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Tracking is a skill that all Astartes come trained in.

Is Fulrik getting any bonus for knowing Sam's scent or is that just the justification we are using from a narrative perspective?

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Per <45

Tracking <39 +/- whatever

Damn, his senses are on, looks like he isn't paying attention to any fine details, just going on gut instinct.

Per, Int
I rolled 1d100, the result is 3 = 3.
I rolled 1d100, the result is 85 = 85.

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