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Darker

This sounds like a plan and lets us take it all back AND travel at the same speed we would be traveling at anyway.

Talanall
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There are a few consequences that aren't obvious. Anything burdened to a heavy load (461 lbs. for the warhorse, and 151 lbs. for the ponies) will run at 3x speed instead of 4x (or 4x instead of 5x, in the horse's case). Also, both levels of burden impose armor check penalties, which could be inconvenient if you need the horses to swim, jump, etc.

These things didn't come up as a potential issue on your trip out, but you weren't (purely as a hypothetical example) trying to flee from anything. If I were a player in this game rather than the DM, none of these issues would stop me from doing as proposed, but they would inform my understanding of risk for the endeavor.

Wæs se grimma gæst Grendel haten,
mære mearcstapa, se þe moras heold

Talanall
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All this said, I need a firm decision with regard to whether Grimvaalk and Fanax are going to murder people in their sleep, please. If they aren't, then I need to know how long you guys are going to hang around here. Natural healing is great, but it takes time.

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mære mearcstapa, se þe moras heold

Cronono
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As murders are being contemplated, Gorx will be casting Cure Moderate Wounds on whoever is most hurt. He'll also summon up some Fiendish Giant Ant Soldiers because that's amazing.

Healing, FGAS Summon
I rolled 2d8+4, the result is 5, 8, 4 = 17.
I rolled 2d6+8, the result is 2, 1, 8 = 11.
Darker

After careful consideration, I'm going to judge that Grimvaalk's lawful evil tendancies make him lean away from murdering his companions. Grimvaalk doesn't feel good about betraying them unless he has good reason to do so (more than greed). He has no qualms about murdering people in their sleep, but he think that those that fight together should have more trust in each other and he's not going to murder them over some pinky coins. However, he's afraid Gorx might get them all killed, so he's slightly more in favor of murdering him.

But Gorx just gorx'd up the murder plan by healing one of them. I knew we should have killed him first.

Talanall
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Is he going for dominated ants?

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mære mearcstapa, se þe moras heold

Cronono
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Oh yeah. Just the smaller Giant ones. We wouldn't want them getting out of control.

Talanall
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I mean, if he's only going to need help for an hour and isn't going to need multiple ants, and if he's not sending them into a fight, then he may actually want a more advanced one. They'll be friendly to Gorx no matter what.

The ghosts were difficult because Gorx was asking them to fight, and wasn't powerful enough to get away with it without bribing them. They wouldn't have attacked him (short of being attacked themselves), even in the case of the half-orc who was so concerned with lecturing him about whatever it was.

Wæs se grimma gæst Grendel haten,
mære mearcstapa, se þe moras heold

Cronono
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I don't think the loot conversation is finished IC, so the ants can either help move all the loot out of the cave, or we can use the ants to eat Vummy's guts and leave us the parts we want, or come up with something clever.

Strength in numbers and whatnot.

Board Rider
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Fanax will follow Grim and won't be murdering anyone. He'll spend his time alternating care of whoever is still unconscious and stacking coins preparing them for transport.

Talanall
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How, exactly, are these ants moving half a ton of loose pennies?

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mære mearcstapa, se þe moras heold

Cronono
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They've got a move speed of 50, so we can fill up a tent or a bag or stuff Vumrot's corpse with them and put the container on the ant so that even if it is burdened, it's a fast little bugger.

Darker

Hmmmm..... how many coins fit in a dragon's bladder?

OOOOORRRRR.... we can just pack them on the ponies.

Fixxxer
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There's a tent not far away that was most recently being used as a makeshift bellows. I don't imagine it would be too difficult to rig it up as a sort of sled that the ant(s) could drag, just to get the heavy metals out to the horses. That said, the question of how long we'll be here might dictate whether we actually want to move stuff outside the cave at this moment.

Talanall
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I know you'll be here for at least eight hours, because unless you apply at least 4 points of magical healing to him, that's how long it's going to take for Zathrus to wake up and be well enough to travel—you need an eight hour resting period to get natural healing. And it probably should be more like ten to twelve hours, because I'm sure that between the five of them Fanax, Gorx, Grimvaalk, Oni and Yonah all would like to get some decent sleep and (excepting Gorx, who is uninjured) heal naturally as well. So I'm going to presume that you forego any plans for internecine murder, take 2-hour shifts on watch, and . . . I dunno. Eat some barbecued goat, I guess.

I don't have any random encounters queued up for the night of 27 Urthan, 973 IR, so you make it through safely and without interruption, and Zathrus wakes up feeling like shit, but alive. Sometime overnight, Cha'nek returns from whatever he was doing while you were busy with Vumrot. Judging by the smell, this seems to have included rolling around on a corpse. He snuggles up next to his incapacitated master, farts, and goes to sleep.

With that in mind, the following will be the outcome of all the cure spells, Heal (long-term care) checks, and rest after 10 hours:

Fanax has taken 9 points of damage and 2 points of Charisma damage.
Grimvaalk has taken 9 points of damage and 3 points of Charisma damage.
Grimvaalk's wolf has taken 6 points of damage.
Oni has taken 11 points of damage.
Yonah has taken 11 points of damage.
Zathrus has taken 10 points of damage.

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mære mearcstapa, se þe moras heold

Darker

Shouldn't Grim get a better healing rate? Just the cure spell should have gotten him to 13 damage, natural healing should have done better. Should he be at 4 if he just got the regular healing rate?

Cronono
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Who did Gorx heal? Additionally, he had some cure minors to throw around.

Talanall
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Darker wrote:

Shouldn't Grim get a better healing rate? Just the cure spell should have gotten him to 13 damage, natural healing should have done better. Should he be at 4 if he just got the regular healing rate?

The regular healing rate is 1 hp/level and 1 point of ability damage.

Oni, Zathrus, and Yonah got twice that because Fanax made three successful checks to give them long-term care. Yonah received the cure moderate wounds spell, which woke him up and healed a bunch of damage besides, but even with that he and Oni were only brought up to a tie.

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mære mearcstapa, se þe moras heold

Darker

Grim took 18 damage in the fight. Then he used an additional cure light on himself for 5 so he could share the healing spell with his mount and get him above 0 in case he was needed. Then he had natural healing. So shouldn't he have healed for a total of 9 and his wolf for a total of 7?

Talanall
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Okay, I see what happened. I missed his natural healing, and that of his wolf. I apologize for that, and the total above is now accurate.

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mære mearcstapa, se þe moras heold

Board Rider
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I'll take some Cure Minors from Gorx. That will help Fanax in liking him more.

Talanall
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How many cure minor wounds spells was Gorx willing to devote to Fanax?

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mære mearcstapa, se þe moras heold

Talanall
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Okay, what's the decision point, here? Stay or go? It sounds like Grimvaalk and Fanax are definitely in the "go" faction, now that everyone is capable of traveling. And it sounds like Zathrus would really like to sit and rest for a day, but doesn't care enough to fight about it.

Wæs se grimma gæst Grendel haten,
mære mearcstapa, se þe moras heold

MinusInnocence
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Oni is banking on this being a relatively safe region, since no one knows the dragon is dead yet and most things that might be hazardous to our health are probably still giving a travel radius around the cave a wide berth. He thinks we should roll the dice and strike out ASAP to rejoin the Horde and maybe it will be an uneventful journey after all.

"Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken

Dafyd
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Yonah is happy to press on.

Fixxxer
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Talanall wrote:

And it sounds like Zathrus would really like to sit and rest for a day, but doesn't care enough to fight about it.

Exactly.

Incidentally, it hasn't come up in conversation since he's been awake, but Zathrus is for taking all of the coinage. It doesn't have obvious monetary value within the horde, but he's been in the world enough to know how the pink races value it, and believes our leadership will value it as well.

MinusInnocence
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If something was important enough for the dragon to hoard it, Oni thinks it would be stupid to leave it. I mean it doesn't actually come out to a huge chunk of change when we convert it into gold pieces and split it up, but money is money and war is expensive.

"Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken

Talanall
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I don't know if this puts a different complexion on it for any of the PCs, but it has been implied (and to Zathrus, said in as many words) that the hoard is yours to split between you.

Such as it is. I'm not going to say that your DM burst into a fit of deranged cackles when he realized that he was going to be giving you a major portion of this hoard in pennies, but I don't think I really can say he didn't, either.

Wæs se grimma gæst Grendel haten,
mære mearcstapa, se þe moras heold

Darker

Yeah, that's why we were going to murder everyone for it.

Talanall
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Well, looks like you're getting on the road.

What's your marching order look like?

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mære mearcstapa, se þe moras heold

Board Rider
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Fanax will take point. He will also ask Gorx to summon something to fly as to possibly see something dangerous before we march into it.

Fixxxer
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Zathrus in the middle somewhere.

Darker

Grimvaalk rides vanguard, far ahead to spot trouble before it gets to the rest of them, but close enough to be see if something eats him whole.

Fixxxer
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It seems prudent to ask that with the time that's passed and with attempts at long-term care that I seem to recall being made, what are our HP totals at?

Talanall
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Currently, you're at the following totals:
Fanax has taken 9 points of damage and 2 points of Charisma damage.
Grimvaalk has taken 9 points of damage and 3 points of Charisma damage.
Grimvaalk's wolf has taken 6 points of damage.
Oni has taken 11 points of damage.
Yonah has taken 11 points of damage.
Zathrus has taken 10 points of damage.

When you complete your next rest of at least 8 hours, you'll regain a number of hit points equal to your HD, plus a point of each ability score that's damaged. These figures double if you receive long-term care via the Heal skill.

Of course, if your rest is disturbed in any significant way, then you don't heal at all.

Wæs se grimma gæst Grendel haten,
mære mearcstapa, se þe moras heold

Talanall
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Is Gorx going to answer his kinsmen?

Wæs se grimma gæst Grendel haten,
mære mearcstapa, se þe moras heold

Cronono
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Sorry, I am slammed at work. Please run Gorx for now.

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