Chapter 1: Harvest (OOC)

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Talanall
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I would be amenable to something like that; I cut my teeth as a DM in a no-frills precursor to that environment. But I remember that it could be a hassle to get five or six people scheduled up for it, even back when we were all college students whose time was largely our own to dispose of.

Wæs se grimma gæst Grendel haten,
mære mearcstapa, se þe moras heold

MinusInnocence
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My schedule doesn't really allow me to plot out blocks of time that would be anything close to a regular gaming session of 4+ hours.

Talanall
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Yes, and I doubt you're the only one.

Wæs se grimma gæst Grendel haten,
mære mearcstapa, se þe moras heold

Dafyd
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I guess I'm something of a SME on funerary stuff, given my vocational background. I'll just ramble a bit, and hope that addresses some of the questions that may be floating around.

In organized religious structures (say, Judaism, most structures of Christianity, and Islam), there are usually prescribed funerary customs. For most observant adherents of Judaism and Islam in particular, they generally want the body and all of its parts buried as soon as possible (less than 24 hours), with no embalming. Christianity varies wildly, but usually there's a "way you want to do it if you can" and "what'll do in a pinch." My tradition prefers, for example, there to be a priest present, not least for record keeping, and we have rituals for various circumstances, including folks whose faith background isn't certain. I can't speak for what those rites would look like in Tolrea, obviously, but in general, there's an ideal and there's what you can get away with. We're in the latter category here. Some cultures, for what it's worth, are finicky about the whole body being buried together. For example, Bob Marley was big into Rastafarianism when he was diagnosed with skin cancer on his big toe, and he refused to have it amputated for religious reasons.

I'm less knowledgeable about the funeral practices of shamanistic cultures, as it's not something we run into much. My hunch, though, is that there's a certain way the body must be taken care of before it's buried / burned / dropped in the ocean that varies by culture. Most of these frankly will not involve eating them, not least because of concern for the spread of disease. Plus it's icky. Now, the good news is we have a Shaman here who can do what he does for his culture--whatever that is.

But your concerns will be:
1) What to do with the body and its parts to prepare it.
2) What to do with possessions.
3) What to do with the actual body for the funeral -- bury eat, burn it, whatever.
4) What ceremony or gestures or whatever are involved.
5) Who the ceremony is for. It'll look different if it's for the mourners vs if it's so the deceased can go wherever it is the deceased are supposed to go.

My two coppers. Hope it helps.

Darker

Rasnak takes his time and will not hurry no matter the urging. He takes a 20 to search, giving him a 26.

Talanall
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Is he looking at the treasure room, or the chest?

Wæs se grimma gæst Grendel haten,
mære mearcstapa, se þe moras heold

Talanall
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I did not know the bit about Marley and his toe. Or that Rastafari don't amputate.

As an explication to Dafyd's remarks, he's been through a divinity program, is an ordained Anglican priest, and is currently serving as a chaplain in the United States military. In this last role, he's responsible for ministering to the spiritual needs of any soldier who comes to him, which requires a good deal of 1) ecumenicism and 2) practical knowledge about the concerns of a variety of different religious and spiritual backgrounds.

Wæs se grimma gæst Grendel haten,
mære mearcstapa, se þe moras heold

Darker

Didn't they already check the chest? If not, he'll check the chest and then treasure room if that's what Malbi is about.

Talanall
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They looked at it for a minute and decided to come back to it. Then they found the secret door, determined that it was not trapped, and Vandersrike went back upstairs and decapitated the necromancers' corpses while Henrik and Vexandi moved the barrels around to open the secret door. Then Rasnak freaked out because he didn't think a hidden treasure room belongs under a ramshackle old farmhouse. One of the hobs chattered with him and Henrik a little, then went upstairs for Mbali (but got Uluwasi instead).

Vandersrike came back down, presented Vexandi with severed heads, and went back upstairs. As did Vexandi. If Rasnak wants backup, I would imagine that Vandersrike is within hailing distance.

So as of right now, there's doubt about the status of the chest, and also the treasure room may have unsprung, undetected traps in it. It's already evident that, for example, the builders of this treasure room were able to use floor plates (and savvy enough not to install traps someplace where they might be sprung accidentally and give away the treasure's presence).

Wæs se grimma gæst Grendel haten,
mære mearcstapa, se þe moras heold

Darker

Yes, Rasnak will hail for Vandersrike. Together, one can assist while the other takes a 20. I think Vandersrike has the better base mod, so Rasnak can roll for a +2 bonus.

Talanall
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Presuming that Vandersrike comes down, I suppose you'd better go ahead and roll to assist.

Wæs se grimma gæst Grendel haten,
mære mearcstapa, se þe moras heold

Darker

Roll

I rolled 1d20+6, the result is 11, 6 = 17.
I rolled 1d20+6, the result is 20, 6 = 26.
Darker

Assisting chest and then room. Like a champ.

Cronono
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Vandersrike will come down with slightly enlarged pockets. Pursuant to the requests of his esteemed colleagues, he will discontinue his activities upstairs and take 20 on the requested activities downstairs.

Talanall
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I have updated the XP and Rewards thread. You all gain a level. There is a catalog of the treasure chest and room's contents in that post.

It's unclear whether any of those items radiate magic; Rasnak's detect magic spell has long since expired. You may have to wait until tomorrow to handle that question. Appraise checks will be necessary. There is no retry, so what you get is what you get, but they can be attempted untrained. Appraisal takes 1 full minute per item.

Wæs se grimma gæst Grendel haten,
mære mearcstapa, se þe moras heold

Obsidian_Spoon
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How do we handle the level up? Send a new character stat block via the same message as our first one?

Obsidian_Spoon
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Also, where do I find a description of the shaman bonus feats?

Nvm, found the link in the original campaign planning thread.

Talanall
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http://www.emendator.net/dnd_files/shaman_feats.html for the feats.

As for character sheets, I think I can give you guys a choice. If you want to switch to open character sheets, I can create a thread for them and you can post them openly.

If you would prefer to keep them secret, then put them in the same private message thread as the originals.

Wæs se grimma gæst Grendel haten,
mære mearcstapa, se þe moras heold

Cronono
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Taking another level of Rogue. C'mon hit points!

Don't be a wimp!
I rolled 1d6+1, the result is 2, 1 = 3.
Cronono
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I hate this game.

Darker

I don't care whether the sheet is public or private. Rasnak has no secrets, at least none revealed by his sheet, so it doesn't matter.

And with that, hit points.

I rolled 1d6, the result is 4 = 4.
Obsidian_Spoon
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I sent you a message(s) regarding the feat I want to pick and some needed clarification. Also, hit points...

I rolled 1d6, the result is 3 = 3.
Fixxxer
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Hit points

I rolled 1d10, the result is 8 = 8.
Fixxxer
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Updated stat block sent via PM. I'm ambivalent about going public with stat blocks. Either way is fine with me, though it might limit options our new players might be considering, what with all the evil necromancers around and all.

Talanall
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It makes little difference to me.

Wæs se grimma gæst Grendel haten,
mære mearcstapa, se þe moras heold

drumandfight
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My PC isn't evil! I don't care what the biased media has said about him; that gnome wanted to be fed hornets and sodomized until it died.

Dafyd
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Druid hp!

I rolled 1d8, the result is 8 = 8.
Darker

How are you with the spell Light of Lunia from the spell compendium (and planar handbook)? Looking to expand Rasnak's clerical offerings.

Talanall
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It's a no.

Wæs se grimma gæst Grendel haten,
mære mearcstapa, se þe moras heold

deadDMwalking
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I'd prefer open character sheets. It might be days (or weeks) of real life for a single day in the game. I like to track my spells cast and that's easier on an open sheet.

I'm traveling for business the rest of this week. I should be connected everyday, but if you find me holding things up, feel free to NPC Henrik. I'll be happy if someone else is uncomfortable. Perhaps you can share the fact that dwarves are at least as long as humans, but because of their short stature, they look like they're hung like donkeys.
Assuming a (not quite) appropriate moment.

Hit points
I rolled 1d8, the result is 7 = 7.
Darker

Rasnak is updated. Hello sweet, sweet skill synergies.

Talanall
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So far I have one in favor of open sheets and two votes of "don't care." Anyone else?

Wæs se grimma gæst Grendel haten,
mære mearcstapa, se þe moras heold

Darker

Can I change my vote to hidden to be intentionally contrary and prevent the one open sheets vote from winning outright?

Obsidian_Spoon
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If we posted them to an open thread, rather than as PMs, we could just edit the original post each time we need to change it, making it a much cleaner presentation than a long chain of messages...so I suppose I'm voting a yes, unless you say that isn't the way we'd handle things.

Talanall
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Yeah, that'd be what we'd be doing. It'd look like the Character Management thread in my Ancestral Burdens campaign, basically.

Right now, we are doing as Mike does in his 2EE game. Hidden sheets, so you guys can only make educated guesses about each other's abilities, backgrounds, motives, etc.

Wæs se grimma gæst Grendel haten,
mære mearcstapa, se þe moras heold

Dafyd
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It's not a hill I'm willing to die on, but I prefer that my sheet is kept mostly between me and the DM.

Talanall
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Currently we're 2 yes, 2 abstain, 1 no.

Wæs se grimma gæst Grendel haten,
mære mearcstapa, se þe moras heold

drumandfight
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I am an abstain vote. I don't mind clicking the PM box rather than the link in the game thread and vice versa.

Dafyd
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Testing my new and improved K:Nature check.

I rolled 1d20+11, the result is 1, 11 = 12.
deadDMwalking
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There's always the compromise solution. You create the thread, and anyone that wants to use it, can. For those that don't, it might be helpful if they put a few values for DM reference (maybe saves, spot/listen, flat-footed AC. They could also use it for tracking things that everyone knows about and involves relatively frequent updates (like treasure division). You don't want to make a new PM everytime you get 337.1 gp do you?

Darker

deadDMwalking wrote:

There's always the compromise solution. You create the thread, and anyone that wants to use it, can. For those that don't, it might be helpful if they put a few values for DM reference (maybe saves, spot/listen, flat-footed AC. They could also use it for tracking things that everyone knows about and involves relatively frequent updates (like treasure division). You don't want to make a new PM everytime you get 337.1 gp do you?


I like this. Even MI had a character thread, we just used it for things others would know about the PC. Then you can put as much or as little as you want, but things like HP and such would be pretty convenient. It's good for the party healers to know when you are about to bite it (and realistically speaking, a good healer is going to know if you've taken a wound that has put you at deaths door (low % HP) or if it was just a flesh wound (high % left).
Talanall
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Alright, then. Anyone who's interested in doing so can use the Character Sheets/Descriptions thread in this forum to post a character sheet in the open. Otherwise, go on with our current method by keeping a current version of your sheet in a PM with me.

Wæs se grimma gæst Grendel haten,
mære mearcstapa, se þe moras heold

Talanall
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We're still waiting on updated sheets from a couple of people. I'll get back into motion on this campaign once that's taken care of.

Wæs se grimma gæst Grendel haten,
mære mearcstapa, se þe moras heold

Cronono
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I'm on a business trip, will get home tomorrow. I should be able to update then.

Talanall
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Not a problem. We've just been on pause for a little while, and I thought it appropriate to make sure people know I haven't abandoned the game.

Wæs se grimma gæst Grendel haten,
mære mearcstapa, se þe moras heold

Talanall
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I'm going to continue play. @deadDMwalking, @Arkenian, and @Darker need to get their updated sheets to me, either via PM or in a posting to the Character Sheets thread ASAP. Any characters not updated by this time on March 15, 2017 will be turned into NPCs and removed from the party at my first opportunity.

Wæs se grimma gæst Grendel haten,
mære mearcstapa, se þe moras heold

Talanall
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Knowledge (nature), Survival, and Profession (forester) would be appropriate checks here to aid problem-solving. There is a fairly easy solution at hand, but it may not be obvious to everyone. Mbali isn't making any secret of her talk with the druid and shaman, so it's fine if someone else wants to overhear and chime in.

Wæs se grimma gæst Grendel haten,
mære mearcstapa, se þe moras heold

Dafyd
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Big scary K:N check?

I rolled 1d20+11, the result is 17, 11 = 28.
Talanall
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Leland thinks the easiest way to deal with this would be to use a bladed implement to remove a wide strip of bark from the trees, as close to the ground as is practical. This is called girdling, and it's a forestry practice that is used when you want the tree dead but still standing.

There's a possibility that some of the trees killed in this fashion would regenerate by sprouting suckers from the part of the tree that is below the girdle, but that'll be a possibility almost no matter what you do. Ideally, you (or even better, some other poor sucker) would come back in a year or so and burn all the deadwood you'll have created, which would also clean out any regrowth.

Wæs se grimma gæst Grendel haten,
mære mearcstapa, se þe moras heold

Obsidian_Spoon
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Just in case you still need them, here's my checks.

Knowledge(nature), survival
I rolled 1d20+4, the result is 19, 4 = 23.
I rolled 1d20+6, the result is 7, 6 = 13.

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